SER1 Valve timing

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From: HartleySmithers Hotmail
Subject: SER1 Valve timing
Date: 08:26 on 10 Aug 2004
I have heard that the S1 engines are very senistive to slight valve timing
errors.

I am confident mine is spot on, but would be interested if anyone has
experience with how much error is required to significantly effect
performance?

As far is hill climbing is concerned, I use mine in very hilly territory,
and found huge improvements by playing with ignition timimg.  I put the
vehicle at the base of a short steep section and repeatedly drove up and
then ran backwards down, adjusting the ignition a little bit each time.
Very slight adjustments made a huge difference in the ease with which it
climbed, although the process took over an hour.  To do the same with valves
would be interesting but too time consuming.

I hope it isn't over advanced, but I with the compression ratio detonation
is not a problem.

Hartley


----- Original Message -----
From: Martin Rothman <m.rothman@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: <series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 6:55 PM
Subject: RE: SER1 S1 Event.


> Hey George,
>
> My 80" can do an indicated 55mph on the flats, and with the 7:50's on it
> the speedo is out about ten percent.  I checked it with my gps and sure
> enough I was doing a bit over 60mph.  The other nite on a long downhill
> run, with the top off, I had it going over an indicated 65mph
> (~73mph!!)!!.  Now that's white knuckle!!
>
> And no problem with the F450 camper, just get one of those flourescent
> triangles that they use on slow moving tractors, and some flashing
> strobe lights for the hard top.......  They'll spot you a mile away.
> :))
>
> Martin Rothman
> Toronto, Canada
> '52 80" Runcle
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> [mailto:series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx] On Behalf Of George E Sollish
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 12:19 PM
> To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> Subject: RE: SER1 S1 Event.
>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> If I remember correctly, Rover listed the Series I's official
> 'top speed' at 52 mi/hr.  That may have been with the early
> 4.88's so, 52 x 4.88 /4.70 = 54 mi/hr.  Now adjust for my
> slightly smaller diameter tires and the 51 mi/hr registered by
> my GPS several times south of Chaumont on the way to Silver
> Lake would seem just about 'top'.  Your Landy will, no question
> (I've got the white knuckles to prove it), leave mine in the
> dust, so there may be something to checking the throttle
> linkage, but I don't think I'm embarassing the Belgian rapid
> deployment force too terribly badly :-)
>
> My concern is not hill climbing -- I think, given enough time,
> my TT will climb a tree.  I'm more worried about the overtaking
> speed of those around me and the brakes on downhill.  Have you
> looked at the hill east of North Adams, the one with the
> serious 10 mi/hr 180 hairpin a third below the summit?  I could
> drop down in second or third, but I still have to contend with
> the F450 camper yahoo doing 70 mi/hr behind me.  Not pleasant.
>
> George E Sollish Chief Engineer Auto Gear Equipment
> Project Manager The Payne Lake Project
>
> On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Tom Tollefson wrote:
>
> > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 11:36:56 -0400
> > From: Tom Tollefson <tollefson@xxxxxxx.xx>
> > Reply-To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> > To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> > Subject: RE: SER1 S1 Event.
> >
> > Hello George
> > Unless Your engine is completely clapped out or the TT's body, being
> > made from steel, adds enormous amounts of weight, I fail to
> comprehend
> > why Your Land Rover is so sluggish. Have You checked that the
> > accelerator linkage allows for a full throttle position? A
> check and a
> > subsequent adjustment resulted in a significant improvement on my
> > machine. Especially with Your new Weber You should have no problems
> > with hills and such. The overdrive won't help either if the power
> > isn't there.
> >
> > In an effort to cure my mystery rattle I proceeded to refurbish first
> > the water pump and then the generator only to have the problem
> > persist. A closer inspection of the flywheel revealed a "mud
> > excluder"(263 001) that, normally fastened to the timing cover by
> > means of drive screws, had managed to come off and was sort of
> > dangling on the spinning crankshaft behind the pulley assembly, hence
> > the dingling sound.
> >
> > The pulley , of course will not come off entirely without first
> > removing fan blades and cowling so I resorted to tin snips to remove
> > the offending piece. I'll have to deal with this properly at a later
> > time.
> >
> > Well, at least I know my genny and water pump won't give me trouble
> > for a while.
> >
> > Tom T
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx [mailto:series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx]On
> > Behalf Of George E Sollish
> > Sent: August 9, 2004 10:06 AM
> > To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> > Subject: Re: SER1 S1 Event.
> >
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I thought about the Thruway, but even with the overdrive I'd still
> > probably be running 20 mi/hr less than the Capitol District
> traffic --
> > not safe.  And when you factor in the number of 'what on earth is
> > that' shenanigans the TT elicits from other drivers, I think not.
> > Through Bennington is probably best. US 20, because it takes forever
> > to get through metro Albany, second best.
> >
> > George E Sollish Chief Engineer Auto Gear Equipment
> > Project Manager The Payne Lake Project
> >
> >
> >
> > To change subscription see www.landrover.net/series1/mail
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> To change subscription see www.landrover.net/series1/mail
>
>
>
>
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>
>

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