RE: SER1 The first trials to start the engine - Day 5

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From: Landrover Opperduit
Subject: RE: SER1 The first trials to start the engine - Day 5
Date: 08:32 on 20 Feb 2005
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Dear Ulrico,

I am not sure if the item of using 'Start-Pilot' or similar product as
'Quick-Start' is discussed earlier on the list serve. Start-Pilot is
commonly used for Diesels in cold conditions. With precautions and it can
also be used to try to give life to petrol engines.

I would advise to to give it a try.

When the engine revs freely while using the starter, without 'unusual'
noises, I don't see extraordinary risks. Take the air cleaner of and spray
one or two puffs in the carb or even in the inlet manifold if the carb is
off, and start the engine. Don't spray to much. Better tried twice, than
once with to much gas at a time. Start-pilot is explosive. Follow the
instructions on the spray bottle.

The risk, as far as I can imagine, is the risk of a 'backfire' induced
explosion in inlet manifold and/or carb. That is the reason why you should
remove the air cleaner in any case. In case of a cold engine, a backfire may
come from an (severe) leaking inlet valve.

If you have any, reasonable timed, ignition it should show some life.

Paul Rasch
The Netherlands
1950 80'
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx [mailto:series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx]Namens
Ulrico Becker
  Verzonden: zondag 13 februari 2005 23:50
  Aan: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
  Onderwerp: SER1 The first trials to start the engine - Day 5


  Hi folks,

  Nothing new to report, apart from having disassembled and cleaned the
carb. I cooked the parts in concentrated vinegar for about an hour and
brushed them with a soft wire brush. They came out pretty clean. I ordered a
carb overhaul kit from Dunfold's and if it is here in time, reassembly will
take place next weekend.

  A slight draw back may be the fact that the accelerator pump fell apart
when pulling the housing open and I could not see exactly how the components
are supposed to fit together.

  I am thinking of renewing at least two of the HT leads. Have not figured
out yet how the connection between coil and distributor cap is fixed. Could
it be that it is only pushed into the cap?

  And the fixation of the leads at the sparking plugs' end is also a
mystery. Although the spark is there I wonder how the lead is supposed to be
fixed inside the plug. There is a little plastic washer, but the lead at
least in one plug seems to be a pretty loose fit. Certainly it shouldn't be
like that.

  Ulrico

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Ulrico,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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not sure if the&nbsp;item of using 'Start-Pilot'&nbsp;<SPAN=20
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as&nbsp;'</SPAN>Quick-Start<SPAN=20
class=3D020384718-16022005>'</SPAN>&nbsp;is discussed&nbsp;earlier on =
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serve.&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D020384718-16022005>Start-Pilot is commonly =
used for=20
Diesels in cold conditions. With precautions and it can also be used to =
try to=20
give life to petrol engines.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D090091818-16022005><SPAN=20
class=3D020384718-16022005></SPAN></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT><SPAN class=3D090091818-16022005><SPAN=20
class=3D020384718-16022005></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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advise to&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D020384718-16022005>to </SPAN>give it a=20
try.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D090091818-16022005></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D090091818-16022005>When=20
the engine revs freely while using the starter, without 'unusual' =
noises, I=20
don't see extraordinary risks.&nbsp;Take the air cleaner of=20
and&nbsp;spray&nbsp;one or two puffs in the carb or even in the inlet =
manifold=20
if the carb is off,&nbsp;and start the engine. Don't spray to =
much.&nbsp;Better=20
tried twice, than once with to much gas at a time.&nbsp;Start-pilot is=20
explosive. Follow the instructions on the spray =
bottle.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D090091818-16022005></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D090091818-16022005>The=20
risk, as far as I can imagine, is the risk of a 'backfire' induced =
explosion in=20
inlet manifold and/or carb. That is the reason why you should remove the =
air=20
cleaner in any case. In case of a cold engine,&nbsp;a backfire may come =
from an=20
(severe) leaking inlet valve. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2><SPAN class=3D090091818-16022005></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D090091818-16022005></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
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size=3D2><SPAN class=3D090091818-16022005></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D090091818-16022005>If you=20
have any, reasonable timed, ignition it should show some=20
life.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D090091818-16022005></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D090091818-16022005>Paul=20
Rasch</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D090091818-16022005>The=20
Netherlands</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D090091818-16022005>1950=20
80'</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<BR><B>Van:</B>=20
  series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx =
[mailto:series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx]<B>Namens=20
  </B>Ulrico Becker<BR><B>Verzonden:</B> zondag 13 februari 2005=20
  23:50<BR><B>Aan:</B> series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx<BR><B>Onderwerp:</B> SER1 =
The first=20
  trials to start the engine - Day 5<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D251080720-13022005><FONT face=3DArial>Hi=20
  folks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D251080720-13022005><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D251080720-13022005><FONT face=3DArial>Nothing new =
to report,=20
  apart from having disassembled and cleaned the carb. I cooked the =
parts in=20
  concentrated vinegar for about an hour and brushed them with a soft =
wire=20
  brush. They came out pretty clean. I ordered a carb overhaul kit from=20
  Dunfold's and if it is here in time, reassembly will take place next=20
  weekend.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D251080720-13022005><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D251080720-13022005><FONT face=3DArial>A slight draw =
back may be=20
  the fact that the accelerator pump fell apart when pulling the housing =
open=20
  and I could not see exactly how the components are supposed to fit=20
  together.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D251080720-13022005><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D251080720-13022005><FONT face=3DArial>I am thinking =
of renewing=20
  at least two of the HT leads. Have not figured out yet how the =
connection=20
  between coil and distributor cap is fixed. Could it be that it is only =
pushed=20
  into the cap?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D251080720-13022005><FONT=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D251080720-13022005><FONT face=3DArial>And the =
fixation of the=20
  leads at the sparking plugs' end is also a mystery. Although the spark =
is=20
  there I wonder how the lead is supposed to be fixed inside the plug. =
There is=20
  a little plastic washer, but the lead at least in one plug seems to be =
a=20
  pretty loose fit. Certainly it shouldn't be like =
that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D251080720-13022005><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Ulrico</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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