Re: SER1 OT Coleman pressure stoves / lamps
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Thanks to all those who responded.
I still don't really know the answer on the white gas thing. My wife's =
step-father (a retired US engineer / consultant for the oil industry) =
says it's
unleaded petrol. But......
In a website http://members.iinet.net.au/~mbuckler/fuel/index.shtml, I =
found the following : -
"The Material Safety Data Sheet for Coleman fuel gives the following =
composition:
=B7 Solvent naphtha (CAS #64742-89-8) 45-50%
=B7 Aliphatic petroleum distillates (CAS #64742-88-7) 45-50%
=B7 Xylene (CAS #1330-20-7) 2%
=B7 Toluene (CAS #108-88-3) 2% "
A Coleman chap (Frank Schmidt, Senior Project Engineer, =
Appliances-Fuels-Patio Grills, The Coleman Co.) says
"Coleman Fuel was developed in the early 50's as a replacement for =
"white gas" which in the US was readily available at hardware stores and =
gas
stations. This was the original motor fuel, no tetraeythlead, or =
additives, also know as casing head gas, water white color. Was also =
used as a cleaning agent for mostly white materials, also a fuel for =
outboard motors and early powered lawnmowers. This source started to =
disappear in the 50's due to technology.
The Coleman fuel of today has not changed in years, it is a blended =
naphtha with no lead compounds, and a paraffinic type. The benzene =
content is controlled to .5% by wt. or less and we add a rust inhibitor =
along with a green dye for identification. I will attach the =
specification for the fuel
for your information. One point, you might find interesting is Coleman =
Fuel is the preferred fuel for fire eaters, have several inquiries a =
year as to
the benzene content and is it safe.??
PS: The specification is titled (US Market) there is no other one."
There's a link for the specification (pdf file). According to the spec, =
benzene only constitutes 0.5%. They describe Coleman fuel as "a light
petroleum naphtha containing no lead compounds".=20
An Australian site refers to Coleman fuel as "shellite" ("basically a =
refined form of petrol").
I don't like the idea of using benzene - safety (carcinogenic compounds, =
according to what I've read) & cost.
Any further input as to what would be a suitable substitute for "Coleman =
Fuel" or "white gas" greatly appreciated.
Regards
Mike B
----- Original Message -----=20
From: GRAHAM WOOD=20
To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx=20
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: SER1 OT Coleman pressure stoves / lamps
Mike,
=20
I have an MSR stove that also says it needs Coleman fuel / white gas, =
being reluctant to pay the vast price of Coleman fuel and buy seperate =
fuel for it I run mine on ordinary unleaded petrol and it seems to be =
fine on that provided I clean the jet and generator tube regularly. It =
can be run on Paraffin but requires a different size of jet to do so. I =
would assume that the Coleman stove will be similar and also burn =
Paraffin with the appropriate jet fitted - might be worth contacting =
Coleman to check it out.
=20
Graham W
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to all those who =
responded.<BR><BR>I still=20
don't really know the answer on the white gas thing. My wife's =
step-father=20
(a retired US engineer / consultant for the oil industry) says =
it's<BR>unleaded=20
petrol. But......<BR><BR>In a website <A=20
href=3D"http://members.iinet.net.au/~mbuckler/fuel/index.shtml">http://me=
mbers.iinet.net.au/~mbuckler/fuel/index.shtml</A>,=20
I found the following : -<BR><BR>"The Material Safety Data Sheet for =
Coleman=20
fuel gives the following=20
composition:<BR>=B7 =
Solvent=20
naphtha (CAS #64742-89-8)=20
45-50%<BR>=B7 Aliphatic =
petroleum=20
distillates (CAS #64742-88-7)=20
45-50%<BR>=B7 Xylene =
(CAS=20
#1330-20-7) 2%<BR>=B7 =
Toluene (CAS=20
#108-88-3) 2% "<BR><BR>A Coleman chap (Frank Schmidt, Senior Project =
Engineer,=20
Appliances-Fuels-Patio Grills, The Coleman Co.) says<BR><BR>"Coleman =
Fuel was=20
developed in the early 50's as a replacement for "white gas" which in =
the US was=20
readily available at hardware stores and gas<BR>stations. This was the =
original=20
motor fuel, no tetraeythlead, or additives, also know as casing head =
gas, water=20
white color. Was also used as a cleaning agent for mostly white =
materials, also=20
a fuel for outboard motors and early powered lawnmowers. This source =
started to=20
disappear in the 50's due to technology.<BR>The Coleman fuel of today =
has not=20
changed in years, it is a blended naphtha with no lead compounds, and a=20
paraffinic type. The benzene content is controlled to .5% by wt. or less =
and we=20
add a rust inhibitor along with a green dye for identification. I will =
attach=20
the specification for the fuel<BR>for your information. One point, you =
might=20
find interesting is Coleman Fuel is the preferred fuel for fire eaters, =
have=20
several inquiries a year as to<BR>the benzene content and is it =
safe.??<BR>PS:=20
The specification is titled (US Market) there is no other =
one."<BR><BR>There's a=20
link for the specification (pdf file). According to the spec, =
benzene only=20
constitutes 0.5%. They describe Coleman fuel as "a =
light<BR>petroleum=20
naphtha containing no lead compounds". <BR><BR>An Australian site refers =
to=20
Coleman fuel as "shellite" ("basically a refined form of =
petrol").<BR><BR>I=20
don't like the idea of using benzene - safety (carcinogenic compounds, =
according=20
to what I've read) & cost.<BR><BR>Any further input as to what would =
be a=20
suitable substitute for "Coleman Fuel" or "white gas" greatly=20
appreciated.<BR><BR>Regards<BR>Mike B<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<A href=3D"mailto:threemoles@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx"=20
title=3Dthreemoles@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>GRAHAM WOOD</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 10, 2005 =
5:51=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: SER1 OT Coleman =
pressure=20
stoves / lamps</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have an MSR stove that also says it =
needs=20
Coleman fuel / white gas, being reluctant to pay the vast price =
of=20
Coleman fuel and buy seperate fuel for it I run mine on ordinary =
unleaded=20
petrol and it seems to be fine on that provided I clean the jet and =
generator=20
tube regularly. It can be run on Paraffin but requires a =
different size=20
of jet to do so. I would assume that the Coleman stove will be =
similar=20
and also burn Paraffin with the appropriate jet fitted - might be =
worth=20
contacting Coleman to check it out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Graham =
W</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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