Re: SER1 OT Coleman pressure stoves / lamps
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Many years ago in the 50's when I was a kid, moco sold the ordinary leaded=
=20
gas and in a separate pump sold white unleaded gas. I used it in my coleman=
=20
lantern.
Bob B
At 11:56 AM 4/11/2005, you wrote:
>Thanks to all those who responded.
>
>I still don't really know the answer on the white gas thing. My wife's=20
>step-father (a retired US engineer / consultant for the oil industry) says=
it's
>unleaded petrol. But......
>
>In a website=20
><http://members.iinet.net.au/~mbuckler/fuel/index.shtml>http://members.iine=
t.net.au/~mbuckler/fuel/index.shtml,=20
>I found the following : -
>
>"The Material Safety Data Sheet for Coleman fuel gives the following=20
>composition:
>=B7 Solvent naphtha (CAS #64742-89-8) 45-50%
>=B7 Aliphatic petroleum distillates (CAS #64742-88-7) 45-50%
>=B7 Xylene (CAS #1330-20-7) 2%
>=B7 Toluene (CAS #108-88-3) 2% "
>
>A Coleman chap (Frank Schmidt, Senior Project Engineer,=20
>Appliances-Fuels-Patio Grills, The Coleman Co.) says
>
>"Coleman Fuel was developed in the early 50's as a replacement for "white=
=20
>gas" which in the US was readily available at hardware stores and gas
>stations. This was the original motor fuel, no tetraeythlead, or=20
>additives, also know as casing head gas, water white color. Was also used=
=20
>as a cleaning agent for mostly white materials, also a fuel for outboard=20
>motors and early powered lawnmowers. This source started to disappear in=20
>the 50's due to technology.
>The Coleman fuel of today has not changed in years, it is a blended=20
>naphtha with no lead compounds, and a paraffinic type. The benzene content=
=20
>is controlled to .5% by wt. or less and we add a rust inhibitor along with=
=20
>a green dye for identification. I will attach the specification for the=
fuel
>for your information. One point, you might find interesting is Coleman=20
>Fuel is the preferred fuel for fire eaters, have several inquiries a year=
as to
>the benzene content and is it safe.??
>PS: The specification is titled (US Market) there is no other one."
>
>There's a link for the specification (pdf file). According to the spec,=20
>benzene only constitutes 0.5%. They describe Coleman fuel as "a light
>petroleum naphtha containing no lead compounds".
>
>An Australian site refers to Coleman fuel as "shellite" ("basically a=20
>refined form of petrol").
>
>I don't like the idea of using benzene - safety (carcinogenic compounds,=20
>according to what I've read) & cost.
>
>Any further input as to what would be a suitable substitute for "Coleman=20
>Fuel" or "white gas" greatly appreciated.
>
>Regards
>Mike B
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:threemoles@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>GRAHAM WOOD
>To: <mailto:series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
>Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 5:51 PM
>Subject: Re: SER1 OT Coleman pressure stoves / lamps
>
>Mike,
>
>I have an MSR stove that also says it needs Coleman fuel / white=20
>gas, being reluctant to pay the vast price of Coleman fuel and buy=20
>seperate fuel for it I run mine on ordinary unleaded petrol and it seems=20
>to be fine on that provided I clean the jet and generator tube=20
>regularly. It can be run on Paraffin but requires a different size of jet=
=20
>to do so. I would assume that the Coleman stove will be similar and also=
=20
>burn Paraffin with the appropriate jet fitted - might be worth contacting=
=20
>Coleman to check it out.
>
>Graham W
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Many years ago in the 50's when I was a kid, moco sold the ordinary
leaded gas and in a separate pump sold white unleaded gas. I used it in
my coleman lantern.<br><br>
Bob B<br><br>
<br>
At 11:56 AM 4/11/2005, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D""><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2=
>Thanks
to all those who responded.<br><br>
I still don't really know the answer on the white gas thing. My
wife's step-father (a retired US engineer / consultant for the oil
industry) says it's<br>
unleaded petrol. But......<br><br>
In a website
<a href=3D"http://members.iinet.net.au/~mbuckler/fuel/index.shtml">;
http://members.iinet.net.au/~mbuckler/fuel/index.shtml</a>;, I found the
following : -<br><br>
"The Material Safety Data Sheet for Coleman fuel gives the following
composition:<br>
=B7 Solvent naphtha (CAS
#64742-89-8) 45-50%<br>
=B7 Aliphatic petroleum
distillates (CAS #64742-88-7) 45-50%<br>
=B7 Xylene (CAS #1330-20-7)
2%<br>
=B7 Toluene (CAS #108-88-3)
2% "<br><br>
A Coleman chap (Frank Schmidt, Senior Project Engineer,
Appliances-Fuels-Patio Grills, The Coleman Co.) says<br><br>
"Coleman Fuel was developed in the early 50's as a replacement for
"white gas" which in the US was readily available at hardware
stores and gas<br>
stations. This was the original motor fuel, no tetraeythlead, or
additives, also know as casing head gas, water white color. Was also used
as a cleaning agent for mostly white materials, also a fuel for outboard
motors and early powered lawnmowers. This source started to disappear in
the 50's due to technology.<br>
The Coleman fuel of today has not changed in years, it is a blended
naphtha with no lead compounds, and a paraffinic type. The benzene
content is controlled to .5% by wt. or less and we add a rust inhibitor
along with a green dye for identification. I will attach the
specification for the fuel<br>
for your information. One point, you might find interesting is Coleman
Fuel is the preferred fuel for fire eaters, have several inquiries a year
as to<br>
the benzene content and is it safe.??<br>
PS: The specification is titled (US Market) there is no other
one."<br><br>
There's a link for the specification (pdf file). According to the
spec, benzene only constitutes 0.5%. They describe Coleman fuel as
"a light<br>
petroleum naphtha containing no lead compounds". <br><br>
An Australian site refers to Coleman fuel as "shellite"
("basically a refined form of petrol").<br><br>
I don't like the idea of using benzene - safety (carcinogenic compounds,
according to what I've read) & cost.<br><br>
Any further input as to what would be a suitable substitute for
"Coleman Fuel" or "white gas" greatly
appreciated.<br><br>
Regards<br>
Mike B<br><br>
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<dd>----- Original Message ----- <br>
<dd>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:threemoles@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx">GRAHAM WOOD</a>
<br>
<dd>To:</b>
<a href=3D"mailto:series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx">series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx</a>; <br>
<dd>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 10, 2005 5:51 PM<br>
<dd>Subject:</b> Re: SER1 OT Coleman pressure stoves / lamps<br><br>
<dd><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>Mike,<br>
</font>
<dd> <br>
<dd><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>I have an MSR stove that also says it need=
s
Coleman fuel / white gas, being reluctant to pay the vast price of
Coleman fuel and buy seperate fuel for it I run mine on ordinary unleaded
petrol and it seems to be fine on that provided I clean the jet and
generator tube regularly. It can be run on Paraffin but requires a
different size of jet to do so. I would assume that the Coleman
stove will be similar and also burn Paraffin with the appropriate jet
fitted - might be worth contacting Coleman to check it out.<br>
</font>
<dd> <br>
<dd><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>Graham W<br>
</font>
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