Re: SER1 Long weekend fun!

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From: Bruce Stewart
Subject: Re: SER1 Long weekend fun!
Date: 21:17 on 12 Jun 2005
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I used both...40nm initially with a torque wrench then 60 degrees with =
dial indicator then a further
120 with dial indicator following the manufacturers pattern.....my =
diesel mechanic friend who came
over looked at it, scratched his head......said words to the effect its =
a typical land rover.....and
I should have bought a Toyota!......he was banished from the =
property.....heathen.....  :o)


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ulrico Becker=20
  To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx=20
  Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 7:55 PM
  Subject: AW: SER1 Long weekend fun!


  Have you used a simple torque wrench or have you tmeasured the angle =
by which they were tightened? This method is necessary in modern engines =
because it eliminates all "waste of torque" due to friction inside of =
the thread or of the bolt's base and the head casting.=20

  Ulrico



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  Von: series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx [mailto:series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx] Im =
Auftrag von Bruce Stewart
  Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. Juni 2005 09:45
  An: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
  Betreff: SER1 Long weekend fun!


  Tis a long weekend here in Oz and of course our Series 1 (Disco) =
decided to die
  in the engine department. Head gasket at No4 let go into the coolant =
circuit so
  had a lovely compressor spraying coolant over everything via the cap.

  There was something odd I noticed when I was undoing the cylinder head =
bolts....
  some were not very tight and others were!.....100K ago we bought the =
car with a blown
  head gasket, I pulled it down and had the head done up plus the turbo =
kitted, new injectors
  etc etc....has been fine since till now.....when I installed the head =
I carefully followed the
  instructions of torquing the head down then dial tensioning to the =
correct figures....it was tight
  as I recall splitting the side out of a Rothenburger socket!....

  I can't work out why some bolts weren't that tight?....they of course =
may have stretched....
  any clues as to what happens here?

  Cheers
  Bruce from Bungendore......


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I used both...40nm initially with a =
torque wrench=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>120 with dial indicator following the =
manufacturers=20
pattern.....my diesel mechanic friend who came</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>over looked at it, scratched his =
head......said=20
words to the effect its a typical land rover.....and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I should have bought a Toyota!......he =
was banished=20
from the property.....heathen.....&nbsp; :o)</FONT></DIV>
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  color=3D#0000ff>Have you used a simple torque wrench or have you =
tmeasured the=20
  angle by which they were tightened? This method is necessary in modern =
engines=20
  because it eliminates all "waste of torque" due to friction inside of =
the=20
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  [mailto:series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx] <B>Im Auftrag von </B>Bruce=20
  Stewart<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Sonntag, 12. Juni 2005 09:45<BR><B>An:</B> =

  series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx<BR><B>Betreff:</B> SER1 Long weekend=20
  fun!<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tis a long weekend here in Oz and of =
course our=20
  Series&nbsp;1 (Disco) decided to die</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in the engine department. Head =
gasket&nbsp;at No4=20
  let go into the coolant circuit so</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had a lovely compressor spraying =
coolant over=20
  everything via the cap.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There was something odd I noticed =
when I was=20
  undoing the cylinder head bolts....</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>some were not very tight and others=20
  were!.....100K ago we bought the car with a blown</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>head gasket, I pulled it down and had =
the head=20
  done up plus the&nbsp;turbo kitted, new injectors</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>etc etc....has been fine since till =
now.....when=20
  I installed the head I carefully followed the</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>instructions of torquing the head =
down then dial=20
  tensioning to the correct figures....it was tight</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as I recall splitting the side out of =
a=20
  Rothenburger socket!....</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't work out why some bolts =
weren't that=20
  tight?....they of course may have stretched....</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>any clues as to what happens =
here?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bruce from =
Bungendore......</FONT></DIV>
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SER1 Long weekend fun!
Bruce Stewart 07:45 on 12 Jun 2005

AW: SER1 Long weekend fun!
Ulrico Becker 09:55 on 12 Jun 2005

Re: SER1 Long weekend fun!
Bruce Stewart 21:17 on 12 Jun 2005

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