Re: SER1 Work Shop Manual Downloads

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Diana where on the SOG can I find the Rover Service Bulletins? Just to throw
in my tuppenceworth on copyright I have downloaded every series 1 document
that I can from the Internet. I have pdf's of the partslist's and the
republished workshop manual which are very good quality and very useable but
I still bought the real books anyway. To me it's a bit like the music thing.
In my opinion mp3's are crap so I download to see if I like the music and if
I do I buy the real thing. The pdf's are handy to have but probably very few
of us would print out and bind them into a garage reference. Let choice
prevail.
Great List by the way
Stewart
Auckland NZ
03 110
52 80

On 28/9/05 12:32 PM, "Eighty Inch" <eightyinch@xxx.xxx.xx> wrote:

> Matt and Jeremy
> 
> I don't agree with you about the Copyright issue.  Copyrights can be
> transferred and are bought and sold, you only have to look to music and
> movies to see the consequences.  For an outstanding example, Wacko Jacko
> owns the copyrights to much of the Beatles music.  More than that Copyright
> is for a duration of longer than 50 years and is renewed by subsequent
> publication.   (See: Term of Copyright.  Generally, the U.S. copyright term
> for works published before January 1, 1978, lasts for 95 years from the year
> of first publication. Although sound recordings fixed before 1972 were not
> then protected by federal copyright, those sound recordings will receive the
> remainder of the term they would have received had they been protected by
> such copyright when published. For example, a sound recording published in
> 1925 will be protected until 2020. For works published on or after January1,
> 1978, the term of copyright is the life of the author plus 70 years.
> http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ38b.pdf)
> 
> However Copyright aside, for books that are currently available in print, if
> internet and eBay scammers keep publishing illegal scans of the books (with
> various quality of reproduction) it will no longer be economically viable
> for a publisher to keep the book in print so they will stop.  The result is
> that those of us who wish to own a copy of the published book will no longer
> be able to buy them.
> 
> I acknowledge that I scanned a whole year of Rover Service Bulletins that
> apply to Land Rover and that they still fall within the 95 year rule.
> However those documents are not currently available in printed form and
> there is no intention for them to be printed so the only way for us to have
> access is for people like me to scan them and have them uploaded to the SOG.
> 
> Regards
> Diana
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Brooks" <jh_brooks@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: <series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 3:28 AM
> Subject: RE: SER1 Work Shop Manual Downloads
> 
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> likely Brooklands has no comment 'cause they can't copyright something that
> is not their own to begin with!
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> 
>> From: "Matt Gibbs" <mr.dublo@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
>> Reply-To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
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>> Subject: RE: SER1 Work Shop Manual Downloads
>> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:25:55 +0100
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>> Hello folks;
>> Do I recall some discussion about the copyright on these and what was the
>> "good" thing to do..? Just wondering because I know that a whole selection
>> were reprinted by Brooklands Books or someone similar in the UK, the 48 to
>> 53 parts book and the workshop manuals. However, I contacted them yesterday
>> by email to ask:-
>>  """Dear Sir;
>>> Can you advise me which factory printing your parts book reprint is
>> taken
>>> from..? I have been asked to ascertain for a web site where the
>> copyright
>>> lies on the 1948 parts book since it is now over 50 years old and as I
>> am
>>> already doing some research into the Series Ones and I have a copy of
>> your
>>> workshop manual I thought I would ask yourselves as obviously extremly
>>> knowlegable on this subject!
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> Matt Gibbs""" and the response I got was:
>> "">Matt
>> 
>> Sorry, but we are unable to help you with the copyright question.""
>> I'd have thought they would have known since they re-printed them!!?? Ah
>> well.
>> Kind regards
>> Matt Gibbs
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx [mailto:series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx]On
>> Behalf Of Matthew J. Clark
>> Sent: 27 September 2005 00:42
>> To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
>> Subject: SER1 Work Shop Manual Downloads
>> 
>> 
>> Good Afternoon everyone! (gotta be afternoon somewhere on the list)-
>> 
>> I just was looking for work shop manuals for my 110 and found this site:
>> 
>> http://www.landrover.ee/est/varia/downloads/cars.htm
>> 
>> The ever popular Series One manuals seem to be here.  I downloaded the gear
>> box section as a test and it seemed to work.  It all seems to be there.
>> Might be a good handy resource when you are at the office surfing the list
>> instead of working and you want to be the first person with an answer to a
>> list question.  Download it to your work machine or have it handy when you
>> are traversing the outback...you know, with that added accessory in the
>> Series One: the laptop.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> matt
>> ______________________________
>> Matthew J. Clark
>> Seattle, Washington
>> 206.932.4610
>> 107 Station Wagon
>> SWB Classic Range Rover
>> TDI 110 Station Wagon
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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