Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

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From: Stas Bekman
Subject: Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Date: 15:01 on 28 Dec 2004
Andreas J Koenig wrote:
>>>>>>On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:09:07 -0500, Stas Bekman <stas@xxxxxx.xxx> said:
> 
> 
>  >> Will it not also affect us who build mod_perl applications and want
>  >> an easy-to-use installer to just work for people who download our
>  >> software? Frankly, I don't think that it should be fine for just the
>  >> dedicated mod_perl developer. This is one place where PHP is kicking
>  >> the crap out of us.
> 
>   > us == perl, once PAUSE is fixed, and CPAN clients are adjusted, it will 
>   > just work.
> 
> Stas, please stop propagating this fairy tale. The danger is, that
> people will believe you. This I call unfair propaganda as it tries to
> put the blame on somebody else's shoulders. That's not a very
> promising strategy to solve problems.
> 
> Listen carefully: it is very unlikely that PAUSE and CPAN get
> ''''fixed'''' as you call it. There is no solution at hand and 4
> people who you know well and who in turn know the problem domain very
> well have agreed and have told you so.
> 
> So please stop telling untruth.

Andreas, what exactly do you call untruth? My attempt to make PAUSE/CPAN 
better and accomodate the growing community needs? Why is that untruth?

It's not a danger that people will believe me, it's a hope. If enough 
people believe in that may be things will change. Things shouldn't be cast 
in stone and they should evolve as the world evolve.

I truly don't understand why you refuse to believe that CPAN/PAUSE needs 
to grow.

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

It's not putting blame on other shoulders. It's an attempt to actually 
solve things. You know very well, that I didn't just say it's PAUSE/CPAN 
problem. I've spent hours trying to find a solution. I've even found a 
person who have agreed to implement the required changes. And all you can 
say: "put the blame on other shoulders"? thanks so much for giving me so 
much credit.

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About putting the blame on other shoulders
Andreas J Koenig 14:28 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Stas Bekman 15:01 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Stas Bekman 15:54 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Andreas J Koenig 16:11 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Issac Goldstand 16:11 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Stas Bekman 16:27 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
merlyn (Randal L. Schwartz) 16:43 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Issac Goldstand 16:58 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
merlyn (Randal L. Schwartz) 17:09 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Issac Goldstand 17:30 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
David Nicol 07:01 on 30 Dec 2004

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