Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders

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From: Cure
Subject: Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Date: 15:30 on 28 Dec 2004
Everybody needs to "STEP BACK" and realize how much work and soul Stas 
has put into mod_perl.
He deserves A LOT OF CREDIT. Keep up the Good work Stas.


Paul


Stas Bekman wrote:

> Andreas J Koenig wrote:
>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:09:07 -0500, Stas Bekman 
>>>>>>> <stas@xxxxxx.xxx> said:
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>  >> Will it not also affect us who build mod_perl applications and want
>>  >> an easy-to-use installer to just work for people who download our
>>  >> software? Frankly, I don't think that it should be fine for just the
>>  >> dedicated mod_perl developer. This is one place where PHP is kicking
>>  >> the crap out of us.
>>
>>   > us == perl, once PAUSE is fixed, and CPAN clients are adjusted, 
>> it will   > just work.
>>
>> Stas, please stop propagating this fairy tale. The danger is, that
>> people will believe you. This I call unfair propaganda as it tries to
>> put the blame on somebody else's shoulders. That's not a very
>> promising strategy to solve problems.
>>
>> Listen carefully: it is very unlikely that PAUSE and CPAN get
>> ''''fixed'''' as you call it. There is no solution at hand and 4
>> people who you know well and who in turn know the problem domain very
>> well have agreed and have told you so.
>>
>> So please stop telling untruth.
>
>
> Andreas, what exactly do you call untruth? My attempt to make 
> PAUSE/CPAN better and accomodate the growing community needs? Why is 
> that untruth?
>
> It's not a danger that people will believe me, it's a hope. If enough 
> people believe in that may be things will change. Things shouldn't be 
> cast in stone and they should evolve as the world evolve.
>
> I truly don't understand why you refuse to believe that CPAN/PAUSE 
> needs to grow.
>
> Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
>
> It's not putting blame on other shoulders. It's an attempt to actually 
> solve things. You know very well, that I didn't just say it's 
> PAUSE/CPAN problem. I've spent hours trying to find a solution. I've 
> even found a person who have agreed to implement the required changes. 
> And all you can say: "put the blame on other shoulders"? thanks so 
> much for giving me so much credit.
>


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About putting the blame on other shoulders
Andreas J Koenig 14:28 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Stas Bekman 15:01 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Cure 15:30 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Stas Bekman 15:54 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Andreas J Koenig 16:11 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Issac Goldstand 16:11 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Stas Bekman 16:27 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
merlyn (Randal L. Schwartz) 16:43 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Issac Goldstand 16:58 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
merlyn (Randal L. Schwartz) 17:09 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
Issac Goldstand 17:30 on 28 Dec 2004

Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
David Nicol 07:01 on 30 Dec 2004

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