Re: SER1 1595cc rings and bearings

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From: Diana Alan
Subject: Re: SER1 1595cc rings and bearings
Date: 14:20 on 30 Aug 2004
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Thanks Bob

My engine re-manufacturer is about as old as my father, 70ish and should =
have retired some time ago - he thinks he may be able to make one up - I =
was mostly interested to see if this was a works job or a unique =
modification.=20

I was told by a LR mechanic who worked with the British Army in the late =
40's and early 50's when they were testing LR's in Australia.  He said =
that some early series LR's had problems with water contamination in the =
sump after wading through rivers.  The theory goes that if the water can =
get into the bell housing then the reverse archimedes screw will =
actually pump the water into the engine.  Rover sent engineers all over =
the place and worked on various fixes for the problem.

It would be nice to buy the seal of the shelf and not have to worry if =
we got it right!

Diana
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bob and Sue B=20
To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: SER1 1595cc rings and bearings


Hi,
I remember a rope seal in a 1950 or so Chevy 6 that I rebuilt a loong =
time ago.
It was like clothesline impregnated with carbon or something. You had to =
tap it into the slot then trim the ends.
I wonder if it is available somewhere? and might work?

Bob B

At 03:45 PM 8/31/2004 +1000, you wrote:


  I am attempting to access a number of oversize/undersize parts to =
recondition a 1595cc engine from a 1951 Land Rover 80" the vehicle is =
currently under complete restoration.
  =20
  The engine number is: 16109565 and the VIN:16661747.  (I have been =
able to access new original Land-Rover ex-British Army +.060" pistons =
without rings (2 compression 1 intermediate stepped scraper and 1 "H" =
section scraper ring per piston))
  =20
  I need:=20
    a..  +.060" OS Rings (2 compression and 2 scraper) for 4 pistons=20
    b.. Con Rod Bushes (little end) for 4 pistons=20
    c.. -.030" US Con Rod (big end) bearing pairs for 4 journals=20
    d.. -.030" US Front Main Bearing pair=20
    e.. -.030" US Rear Main Bearing pair=20
    f.. -.030" US Centre Main Bearing pair (with thrust washers)=20
  I also need the rear main oil seal for this engine - I have been told =
that this may be one of a number of  variations and modifications of the =
rear oil seal in this model.  This engine crankshaft does not have the =
reverse archimedes screw and the seal is not the same as the =
leather/neoprene seal used in the later (1957) 2litre engines.
  =20
  The rear seal arrangement is a 2 piece aluminium housing with 2 piece =
rope seal  inlaid into a groove in the housing halves.  (It replaces =
cast iron oil retainer cap that is fitted to the earlier 1950 engine I =
have.)  The crank diameter at this point is 2.331".  I believe this a =
modification not a standard part.  Any Ideas about this one?
  =20
  Diana Alan
  Sydney, Australia   - dianaa@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Bob</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My engine re-manufacturer is about as =
old as my=20
father, 70ish and should have retired some time ago - he thinks he may =
be able=20
to make one up - I was mostly interested to see if this was a works job =
or a=20
unique modification.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was told by a LR mechanic who worked =
with the=20
British Army in the late 40's and early 50's when they were testing LR's =
in=20
Australia.&nbsp; He said that some early series LR's had problems with =
water=20
contamination in the sump after wading through rivers.&nbsp; The theory =
goes=20
that if the water can get into the bell housing then the reverse =
archimedes=20
screw will actually pump the water into the engine.&nbsp; Rover sent =
engineers=20
all over the place and worked on various fixes for the =
problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It would be nice to buy the seal of the =
shelf and=20
not have to worry if we got it right!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Diana</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dbobnsueb@xxxxx.xxx href=3D"mailto:bobnsueb@xxxxx.xxx">Bob and =
Sue B</A>=20
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dseries1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx=20
href=3D"mailto:series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx">series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx</A>; </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 31, 2004 11:35 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: SER1 1595cc rings and bearings</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi,<BR>I remember a rope seal in a 1950 or so Chevy 6 =
that I=20
rebuilt a loong time ago.<BR>It was like clothesline impregnated with =
carbon or=20
something. You had to tap it into the slot then trim the ends.<BR>I =
wonder if it=20
is available somewhere? and might work?<BR><BR>Bob B<BR><BR>At 03:45 PM=20
8/31/2004 +1000, you wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>I am=20
  attempting to access a number of oversize/undersize parts to =
recondition a=20
  1595cc engine from a 1951 Land Rover 80" the vehicle is currently =
under=20
  complete restoration.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>The engine number is: 16109565 and =
the=20
  VIN:16661747.&nbsp; (I have been able to access new original =
Land-Rover=20
  ex-British Army +.060" pistons without rings (2 compression 1 =
intermediate=20
  stepped scraper and 1 "H" section scraper ring per =
piston))<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I=20
  need:=20
  <UL>
    <LI>&nbsp;<B>+.060</B>" OS Rings (2 compression and 2 scraper) for 4 =
pistons=20

    <LI>Con Rod Bushes (little end) for 4 pistons=20
    <LI><B>-.030</B>" US Con Rod (big end) bearing pairs for 4 journals=20
    <LI><B>-.030</B>" US Front Main Bearing pair=20
    <LI><B>-.030</B>" US Rear Main Bearing pair=20
    <LI><B>-.030</B>" US Centre Main Bearing pair (with thrust washers)=20
  </LI></UL>I also need the rear main oil seal for this engine - I have =
been=20
  told that this may be one of a number of&nbsp; variations and =
modifications of=20
  the rear oil seal in this model.&nbsp; This engine crankshaft does=20
  <B><U>not</U></B> have the reverse archimedes screw and the seal is =
not the=20
  same as the leather/neoprene seal used in the later (1957) 2litre=20
  engines.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>The rear seal arrangement is a 2 piece aluminium =
housing=20
  with 2 piece rope seal&nbsp; inlaid into a groove in the housing =
halves.&nbsp;=20
  (It replaces cast iron oil retainer cap that is fitted to the earlier =
1950=20
  engine I have.)&nbsp; The crank diameter at this point is =
2.331".&nbsp; I=20
  believe this a modification not a standard part.&nbsp; Any Ideas about =
this=20
  one?<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Diana Alan<BR>Sydney, Australia&nbsp;&nbsp; - <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:dianaa@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx">dianaa@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx</A></FONT><=
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