Re: SER1 1595cc rings and bearings
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From: Allan Harding
Subject: Re: SER1 1595cc rings and bearings
Date: 22:41 on 31 Aug 2004
Subject: Re: SER1 1595cc rings and bearings
Date: 22:41 on 31 Aug 2004
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Hi Diana,
Welcome to the list, good to see yet another down under lister. Are
you a member of the Land Rover Owners Club of Australia NSW Branch?
There is a quite active Series I "group" in that club.
As far as your parts queries go, I would suggest Cox & Turner in the
UK for the +.060" rings although, from memory I have only seen them list
+.040" they should be able to help you out with the big ends, mains and
little end stuff.
Look carefully at the camshaft and rocker shafts as these items wear
in the 1600 engines and are responsible for most of the rattles C&T can
supply rocker shafts etc. Wade Cams in Melbourne can reprofile your
camshaft although there must be somebody in Sydney who still has the
data to do it.
It is probable that the setup you have for the rear main is non
standard. The rear main seal scroll and retainer should be obtainable
from Dunsfold Land Rover http://www.dunsfold.com/ They are good to deal
with and have heaps of ex-military Seriues I spares. Failing that, just
salvage one from a dead 1600 engine. Try Walter Cavatano in Cooma if you
get stuck.
On the point of water getting into the oil via the rear main seal,
that is why the wading plug was fitted and should be used.
Another hint, if you buy stuff in the UK, make sure that you get the
supplier to post your parts by AIR MAIL. Getting stuff sent here by
couriers, air express etc. will cause grief one way or another. As an
example, I had a phone call from a courier who claimed to have tried to
deliver a parcel twice (to my home address during the day of course) and
then expected me to pick it up from their depot in Sydney. Told him to
sent the package back to the UK and re-ordered the parts to be sent by
AIR MAIL.
Feel free to contact me off list if you require advice or further
contacts in Sydney, I will be down there Friday for the day.
Hope this helps,
Cheers
Allan
Canberra, Australia
Diana Alan wrote:
> I am attempting to access a number of oversize/undersize parts to
> recondition a 1595cc engine from a 1951 Land Rover 80" the vehicle is
> currently under complete restoration. The engine number is: 16109565
> and the VIN:16661747. (I have been able to access new original
> Land-Rover ex-British Army +.060" pistons without rings (2 compression
> 1 intermediate stepped scraper and 1 "H" section scraper ring per
> piston)) I need:
>
> * +.060" OS Rings (2 compression and 2 scraper) for 4 pistons
> * Con Rod Bushes (little end) for 4 pistons
> * -.030" US Con Rod (big end) bearing pairs for 4 journals
> * -.030" US Front Main Bearing pair
> * -.030" US Rear Main Bearing pair
> * -.030" US Centre Main Bearing pair (with thrust washers)
>
> I also need the rear main oil seal for this engine - I have been told
> that this may be one of a number of variations and modifications of
> the rear oil seal in this model. This engine crankshaft does not have
> the reverse archimedes screw and the seal is not the same as the
> leather/neoprene seal used in the later (1957) 2litre engines. The
> rear seal arrangement is a 2 piece aluminium housing with 2 piece rope
> seal inlaid into a groove in the housing halves. (It replaces cast
> iron oil retainer cap that is fitted to the earlier 1950 engine I
> have.) The crank diameter at this point is 2.331". I believe this a
> modification not a standard part. Any Ideas about this one? Diana
> AlanSydney, Australia - dianaa@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx
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Hi Diana,
<br> Welcome to the list, good to see yet another down
under lister. Are you a member of the Land Rover Owners Club of Australia
NSW Branch? There is a quite active Series I "group" in that club.
<br> As far as your parts queries go, I would suggest
Cox & Turner in the UK for the +.060" rings although, from memory I
have only seen them list +.040" they should be able to help you out with
the big ends, mains and little end stuff.
<br> Look carefully at the camshaft and rocker shafts
as these items wear in the 1600 engines and are responsible for most of
the rattles C&T can supply rocker shafts etc. Wade Cams in Melbourne
can reprofile your camshaft although there must be somebody in Sydney who
still has the data to do it.
<br> It is probable that the setup you have for the rear
main is non standard. The rear main seal scroll and retainer should be
obtainable from Dunsfold Land Rover <A HREF="http://www.dunsfold.com/">http://www.dunsfold.com/</A>; They are good
to deal with and have heaps of ex-military Seriues I spares. Failing that,
just salvage one from a dead 1600 engine. Try Walter Cavatano in Cooma
if you get stuck.
<br> On the point of water getting into the oil via the
rear main seal, that is why the wading plug was fitted and should be used.
<br> Another hint, if you buy stuff in the UK, make sure
that you get the supplier to post your parts by AIR MAIL. Getting stuff
sent here by couriers, air express etc. will cause grief one way or another.
As an example, I had a phone call from a courier who claimed to have tried
to deliver a parcel twice (to my home address during the day of course)
and then expected me to pick it up from their depot in Sydney. Told him
to sent the package back to the UK and re-ordered the parts to be sent
by AIR MAIL.
<br> Feel free to contact me off list if you require
advice or further contacts in Sydney, I will be down there Friday for the
day.
<br> Hope this helps,
<br> Cheers
<br> Allan
<br> Canberra, Australia
<p>Diana Alan wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I
am attempting to access a number of oversize/undersize parts to recondition
a 1595cc engine from a 1951 Land Rover 80" the vehicle is currently under
complete restoration.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>The
engine number is: 16109565 and the VIN:16661747. (I have been able
to access new original Land-Rover ex-British Army +.060" pistons without
rings (2 compression 1 intermediate stepped scraper and 1 "H" section scraper
ring per piston))</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I
need:</font></font>
<ul>
<li>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1> <b>+.060</b>" OS Rings (2 compression
and 2 scraper) for 4 pistons</font></font></li>
<li>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Con Rod Bushes (little end) for 4 pistons</font></font></li>
<li>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1><b>-.030</b>" US Con Rod (big end) bearing
pairs for 4 journals</font></font></li>
<li>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1><b>-.030</b>" US Front Main Bearing pair</font></font></li>
<li>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1><b>-.030</b>" US Rear Main Bearing pair</font></font></li>
<li>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1><b>-.030</b>" US Centre Main Bearing pair
(with thrust washers)</font></font></li>
</ul>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I also need the rear main oil seal for
this engine - I have been told that this may be one of a number of
variations and modifications of the rear oil seal in this model.
This engine crankshaft does <b><u>not</u></b> have the reverse archimedes
screw and the seal is not the same as the leather/neoprene seal used in
the later (1957) 2litre engines.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>The
rear seal arrangement is a 2 piece aluminium housing with 2 piece rope
seal inlaid into a groove in the housing halves. (It replaces
cast iron oil retainer cap that is fitted to the earlier 1950 engine I
have.) The crank diameter at this point is 2.331". I believe
this a modification not a standard part. Any Ideas about this one?</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Diana
Alan</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Sydney, Australia
- <a href="mailto:dianaa@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx">dianaa@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx</a></font></font></blockquote>;
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