Re: SER1 1595cc rings and bearings

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From: Wayne Perrin
Subject: Re: SER1 1595cc rings and bearings
Date: 01:56 on 01 Sep 2004
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Diana,
In the category of "for what it's worth" my cousin was a heavy truck=20
driver for the Army in WW2 and he said the rule for any vehicle after=20
extensive wading was to drain the axles and refresh the oi
On Monday, August 30, 2004, at 10:20 AM, Diana Alan wrote:

> Thanks Bob
> =A0
> My engine re-manufacturer is about as old as my father, 70ish and=20
> should have retired some time ago - he thinks he may be able to make=20=

> one up - I was mostly interested to see if this was a works job or a=20=

> unique modification.=A0
> =A0
> I was told by a LR mechanic who worked with the British Army in the=20
> late 40's and early 50's when they were testing LR's in Australia.=A0 =
He=20
> said that some early series LR's had problems with water contamination=20=

> in the sump after wading through rivers.=A0 The theory goes that if =
the=20
> water can get into the bell housing then the reverse archimedes screw=20=

> will actually pump the water into the engine.=A0 Rover sent engineers=20=

> all over the place and worked on various fixes for the problem.
> =A0
> It would be nice to buy the seal of the shelf and not have to worry if=20=

> we got it right!
> =A0
> Diana
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob and Sue B
> To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 11:35 PM
> Subject: Re: SER1 1595cc rings and bearings
>
> Hi,
> I remember a rope seal in a 1950 or so Chevy 6 that I rebuilt a loong=20=

> time ago.
> It was like clothesline impregnated with carbon or something. You had=20=

> to tap it into the slot then trim the ends.
> I wonder if it is available somewhere? and might work?
>
> Bob B
>
> At 03:45 PM 8/31/2004 +1000, you wrote:
>
> I am attempting to access a number of oversize/undersize parts to=20
> recondition a 1595cc engine from a 1951 Land Rover 80" the vehicle is=20=

> currently under complete restoration.
> =A0
> The engine number is: 16109565 and the VIN:16661747.=A0 (I have been=20=

> able to access new original Land-Rover ex-British Army +.060" pistons=20=

> without rings (2 compression 1 intermediate stepped scraper and 1 "H"=20=

> section scraper ring per piston))
> =A0
> I need:
>
> =95 	=A0+.060" OS Rings (2 compression and 2 scraper) for 4 pistons
> =95 	Con Rod Bushes (little end) for 4 pistons
> =95 	-.030" US Con Rod (big end) bearing pairs for 4 journals
> =95 	-.030" US Front Main Bearing pair
> =95 	-.030" US Rear Main Bearing pair
> =95 	-.030" US Centre Main Bearing pair (with thrust washers)
>
> I also need the rear main oil seal for this engine - I have been told=20=

> that this may be one of a number of=A0 variations and modifications of=20=

> the rear oil seal in this model.=A0 This engine crankshaft does not =
have=20
> the reverse archimedes screw and the seal is not the same as the=20
> leather/neoprene seal used in the later (1957) 2litre engines.
> =A0
> The rear seal arrangement is a 2 piece aluminium housing with 2 piece=20=

> rope seal=A0 inlaid into a groove in the housing halves.=A0 (It =
replaces=20
> cast iron oil retainer cap that is fitted to the earlier 1950 engine I=20=

> have.)=A0 The crank diameter at this point is 2.331".=A0 I believe =
this a=20
> modification not a standard part.=A0 Any Ideas about this one?
> =A0
> Diana Alan
> Sydney, Australia=A0=A0 - dianaa@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx
>

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Diana,

In the category of "for what it's worth" my cousin was a heavy truck
driver for the Army in WW2 and he said the rule for any vehicle after
extensive wading was to drain the axles and refresh the oi

On Monday, August 30, 2004, at 10:20 AM, Diana Alan wrote:


<excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Thanks =
Bob</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>My engine re-manufacturer is
about as old as my father, 70ish and should have retired some time ago
- he thinks he may be able to make one up - I was mostly interested to
see if this was a works job or a unique =
modification.=A0</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>I was told by a LR mechanic
who worked with the British Army in the late 40's and early 50's when
they were testing LR's in Australia.=A0 He said that some early series
LR's had problems with water contamination in the sump after wading
through rivers.=A0 The theory goes that if the water can get into the
bell housing then the reverse archimedes screw will actually pump the
water into the engine.=A0 Rover sent engineers all over the place and
worked on various fixes for the problem.</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>It would be nice to buy the
seal of the shelf and not have to worry if we got it =
right!</smaller></fontfamily>

=A0

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Diana</smaller></fontfamily>

----- Original Message -----

<bold>From:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>Bob
and Sue B</color></underline>

<bold>To:</bold>
=
<underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx</colo=
r></underline>

<bold>Sent:</bold> Tuesday, August 31, 2004 11:35 PM

<bold>Subject:</bold> Re: SER1 1595cc rings and bearings


Hi,

I remember a rope seal in a 1950 or so Chevy 6 that I rebuilt a loong
time ago.

It was like clothesline impregnated with carbon or something. You had
to tap it into the slot then trim the ends.

I wonder if it is available somewhere? and might work?


Bob B


At 03:45 PM 8/31/2004 +1000, you wrote:


<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>I am attempting to access a
number of oversize/undersize parts to recondition a 1595cc engine from
a 1951 Land Rover 80" the vehicle is currently under complete
restoration.

=A0

The engine number is: 16109565 and the VIN:16661747.=A0 (I have been
able to access new original Land-Rover ex-British Army +.060" pistons
without rings (2 compression 1 intermediate stepped scraper and 1 "H"
section scraper ring per piston))

=A0

I need:


=95 	=A0<bold>+.060</bold>" OS Rings (2 compression and 2 scraper) =
for 4
pistons

=95 	Con Rod Bushes (little end) for 4 pistons

=95 	<bold>-.030</bold>" US Con Rod (big end) bearing pairs for 4
journals

=95 	<bold>-.030</bold>" US Front Main Bearing pair

=95 	<bold>-.030</bold>" US Rear Main Bearing pair

=95 	<bold>-.030</bold>" US Centre Main Bearing pair (with thrust
washers)


I also need the rear main oil seal for this engine - I have been told
that this may be one of a number of=A0 variations and modifications of
the rear oil seal in this model.=A0 This engine crankshaft does
<bold><underline>not</underline></bold> have the reverse archimedes
screw and the seal is not the same as the leather/neoprene seal used
in the later (1957) 2litre engines.

=A0

The rear seal arrangement is a 2 piece aluminium housing with 2 piece
rope seal=A0 inlaid into a groove in the housing halves.=A0 (It replaces
cast iron oil retainer cap that is fitted to the earlier 1950 engine I
have.)=A0 The crank diameter at this point is 2.331".=A0 I believe this =
a
modification not a standard part.=A0 Any Ideas about this one?

=A0

Diana Alan

Sydney, Australia=A0=A0 -
=
<underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>dianaa@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx</col=
or></underline></smaller></fontfamily>


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SER1 1595cc rings and bearings
Diana Alan 05:45 on 31 Aug 2004

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