Re: SER1 Td5 Question
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Uli-
Sounds like a hand full. Thanks for the info on road speed, noise and fuel
economy. I=B9ve got to do the math on the k per liter vs. miles per gallon,
but it does seem to add up in my head quickly to being good! With my V8
powered RR, I get about 11-13 miles per gallon on the highway at about
70-75mph. On hot days with the wind at my back, I might get 14mpg. A
diesel would be very much appreciated.
>From your experience, it sounds like the Td5 has a lot of problems and
design issues. I=B9d be disappointed about the performance and maintenance
costs of the the thing. A new head after 70,000k is not acceptable! How
was the service from Turner?
Thanks again for your input. Any thoughts on the 300tdi?
Matthew
On 12/7/04 9:21 AM, "Brett Pritt" <prittspride@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hello Mathew,
>=20
> I have a 110STW with Td5 engine MY late 2000. Yes, consumption is ca. 9l/=
100km
> at countryroads 12l in city. Max speed real 140km/h without and real 160=
km/h
> with chip Stage 1 at 255/85 tires. Max. 14l/100km at full speed. Chipped
> version like a VW Golf(Rabbit) GTD. Noise inside okay until 100km/h. Arou=
nd
> 110/115km/h the loudest noise, higher than 120 it=B4s getting quieter.
>=20
> Poor aircondition, will freeze your knees, while your head is burning,
> especially with non white roof.
>=20
> As I know, there exists now 3 versions of Cyl.heads for the Td5.the lates=
t is
> the best with no overheating problems. Mine has the first one and has
> overheating problems, especially when it=B4s chiptuned. Most problems at th=
e
> first, third or 5. cyl. After 70 000km I need a new cyl.head because wate=
r
> blows through a little hole into the exhaustchannel at the 5. Cyl. I bou=
ght a
> new head from Turner/UK.
>=20
> Latest Td5 no problems with the engine. Early engines have more power in =
the
> lower rpms, new Td5 has more power inthe higher rpms. New Td5 has updated
> electronic and drives like the earlier Td5 with chiptuning. But I think t=
he
> engine is a misconstruction, normally the oil temp.sensor sits at the hot=
est
> part of the engine, Td5 has it in the front at the coolest part in the dr=
iving
> wind. And this is only the beginning of the list of the mankos of the Td5=
. I
> don=B4t know, why LandRover builds such a bad quality for years, this is n=
ot a
> good example of finest british workmanship. Lightswitch / clutch mastercy=
l,
> clutch slave cyl./ waterincrease is a problem/dry halfshaft
> bearings/alarmsystem etc etc. and all the spareparts costs a hell of mone=
y.
>=20
> Uli
> I=20
>> >From: "Matthew J. Clark" <mjc@xxxx.xx>
>> >Reply-To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
>> >To: <series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>> >Subject: SER1 Td5 Question
>> >Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 14:46:16 -0800
>> >=20
>> >I know this isn't a Series One topic, but I was wondering if anyone on =
the
>> >list has experience with the Td5 in a 110SW? I'm considering buying on=
e and
>> >want to know the pro's and con's to the engine. I'm sure someone here =
has
>> >an opinion. Things I'm curious about are fuel economy, power, road spe=
ed,
>> >engine noise inside the cab and that sort of thing. Any info would be
>> >greatly appreciated.
>> >=20
>> >Thanks!=20
>> >=20
>> >Matthew Clark=20
>> >Seattle, Washington
>> >1957 107 SW=20
>> >1993 SWB Range Rover
>> >=20
>> >=20
>> >To change subscription see www.landrover.net/series1/mail
>> >=20
>=20
>=20
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<BR>
Sounds like a hand full. Thanks for the info on road speed, noise and=
fuel economy. I’ve got to do the math on the k per liter vs. mi=
les per gallon, but it does seem to add up in my head quickly to being good!=
With my V8 powered RR, I get about 11-13 miles per gallon on the high=
way at about 70-75mph. On hot days with the wind at my back, I might g=
et 14mpg. A diesel would be very much appreciated.<BR>
<BR>
>From your experience, it sounds like the Td5 has a lot of problems and desi=
gn issues. I’d be disappointed about the performance and mainten=
ance costs of the the thing. A new head after 70,000k is not acceptabl=
e! How was the service from Turner?<BR>
<BR>
Thanks again for your input. Any thoughts on the 300tdi?<BR>
<BR>
Matthew<BR>
<BR>
On 12/7/04 9:21 AM, "Brett Pritt" <prittspride@xxxxxxx.xxx>=
wrote:<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Helvetica">Hello Mathew,<BR>
<BR>
I have a 110STW with Td5 engine MY late 2000. Yes, consumption is ca. 9l/10=
0km at countryroads 12l in city. Max speed real 140km/h without and re=
al 160km/h with chip Stage 1 at 255/85 tires. Max. 14l/100km at full speed. =
Chipped version like a VW Golf(Rabbit) GTD. Noise inside okay until 100km/h.=
Around 110/115km/h the loudest noise, higher than 120 it´s getting qu=
ieter.<BR>
<BR>
Poor aircondition, will freeze your knees, while your head is burning, espe=
cially with non white roof.<BR>
<BR>
As I know, there exists now 3 versions of Cyl.heads for the Td5.the latest =
is the best with no overheating problems. Mine has the first one and has ove=
rheating problems, especially when it´s chiptuned. Most problems at th=
e first, third or 5. cyl. After 70 000km I need a new cyl.head because water=
blows through a little hole into the exhaustchannel at the 5. Cyl. I =
bought a new head from Turner/UK. <BR>
<BR>
Latest Td5 no problems with the engine. Early engines have more power in th=
e lower rpms, new Td5 has more power inthe higher rpms. New Td5 has updated =
electronic and drives like the earlier Td5 with chiptuning. But I think the =
engine is a misconstruction, normally the oil temp.sensor sits at the hotest=
part of the engine, Td5 has it in the front at the coolest part in the driv=
ing wind. And this is only the beginning of the list of the mankos of the Td=
5. I don´t know, why LandRover builds such a bad quality for yea=
rs, this is not a good example of finest british workmanship. Lightswitch / =
clutch mastercyl, clutch slave cyl./ waterincrease is a problem/dry ha=
lfshaft bearings/alarmsystem etc etc. and all the spareparts costs a hell of=
money.<BR>
<BR>
Uli<BR>
I <BR>
>From: "Matthew J. Clark" <mjc@xxxx.xx> <BR>
>Reply-To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx <BR>
>To: <series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> <BR>
>Subject: SER1 Td5 Question <BR>
>Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 14:46:16 -0800 <BR>
> <BR>
>I know this isn't a Series One topic, but I was wondering if anyone on =
the <BR>
>list has experience with the Td5 in a 110SW? I'm considering buyi=
ng one and <BR>
>want to know the pro's and con's to the engine. I'm sure someone =
here has <BR>
>an opinion. Things I'm curious about are fuel economy, power, roa=
d speed, <BR>
>engine noise inside the cab and that sort of thing. Any info woul=
d be <BR>
>greatly appreciated. <BR>
> <BR>
>Thanks! <BR>
> <BR>
>Matthew Clark <BR>
>Seattle, Washington <BR>
>1957 107 SW <BR>
>1993 SWB Range Rover <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
>To change subscription see www.landrover.net/series1/mail <BR>
> <BR>
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