Re: SER1 Greenpeace

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Hi all

I do wish everybody - that includes governments and environmentalists would look
at the facts before jumping off the deep end.  When I was a lad some 30 years
ago, it was drummed into me that the greenery of our planet converted Carbon
Dioxide into Oxygen, thus maintaining the balance.  At that time the Amazon
jungle alone contributed to providing 20% of the world's Oxygen, converting the
relevant amounts of Carbon Dioxide to do so.  Now due to so called "progress"
these rain forest areas are being cut down by the Hectares.  Is it any wonder
that the CO2 levels are rising?  Why is everyone so quick to blame the cars?

Another fact that was well known at the time was that a car polluted less in 30
years of motoring than it did to make it in the first place, yet everyone seems
to "need" a new car at frequent and regular intervals!

As for enviroterrorists - many Animal Rights, and Greenpeace people actually do
terroroise innocent people just doing their job with no regard to the effects
they are having on these people, and regularly break the laws when doing so.
However they seem to get away with it.  We all should have the right to live our
own lives as we see fit.

Having said this, I would agree that living with the environment is far
preferrable to destroying it, but these people too often go too far, and so I
could never side with them.

Regards

Nick Chinery
(Leicestershire UK)

Ian Balcom wrote:

> Surprising to hear such anti-green sentiments being tossed about under
> the guise of humor.  Let's face it.  Unless we (humans from all sides
> of the planet) makes some concessions there will drastic and
> long-lasting negative quality of life repercussions for us and
> generations to come.  Why is it that people who are "consider myself
> green" types so quick to point towards the faults of the green
> movement?  I mean get real! no effort is without error! Especially one
> so huge and important as saving the environment.  If I protest to save
> a one-thousand year old tree (just a symbol mind you) from the
> clutches of a developers machine I will, without fail, anger not only
> the developer, but the land owner, the future renters or residents,
> and sometime even people who have no stake in the place but have a
> sort of allergic reaction to everything green, etc.  Those of you who
> are complaining about the relatively minor inconvenience of changes to
> fire break policy, archaic documentation for the Rainbow Warrior, or
> the observation that the latest generation of Land Rover is a gass
> sucking SUV with very little of its original utility left, or some
> some short haired hippy in a suit chaining himself to a tree to save
> it from the likes of another WalMart Mega-Store have got to ask your
> self where are your priorities?  Mine: good water, good air, healthy
> children, and lots of hopping, chirping, fuzzy creatures to keep the
> food chain functioning.
>
> PS what the heck is an enviroterrorist? Have you ever met one? I feel
> personally attacked by such labels as I am whole heartily dedicated to
> such causes.  It would behoove us to stop labeling people we do not
> agree with.  A developer is a developer but not a developoterrorist.
>
> On 5/16/05, Diana Alan <dianaa@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> wrote:
> > Hi Guys
> >
> > I've got a greenpiece in fact almost the whole car in green!
> >
> > Cheers
> > Diana
> >
> > P.S.  You can't have a decent discussion with many enviroterrorists.  Green
> > activists have had most of the fire access trails in virtually all of our
> > national parks closed to the public and even specialist groups.  The result
> > is that now the volunteer fire-fighters don't know where most of the trails
> > go and the effect of keeping the trails un-blocked by fallen trees which
> > used to happen with public access no longer occurs.  Lives of volunteer
> > fire-fighters will be lost with this closure if they haven't been already.
> > But the green terrorists don't care, what's one less human, they want
> > wilderness where only the exotic feral animals and exotic weeds are free to
> > breed.
> > P.P.S  I consider myself green and what's more I did Zoology as one of my
> > majors in my undergraduate science degree.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Wykes" <tw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> > To: <series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> > Cc: <Thomas.heap@xxx.xx.xx>
> > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: SER1 Greenpeace
> >
> > A car company, who has 70% of all the cars it has ever made still on the
> > road, is as far as I'm concerned pretty "green".
> >
> > Likewise every endangered species or humanitarian effort has had help from
> > a Land Rover in some form or other.
> >
> > I'm fully in support of "green" issues but I wish these extremist would get
> > their facts right.
> >
> > (Thomas I thought this would amuse you)
> >
> > At 10:57 16/05/2005, you wrote:
> > >Hi All,
> > >
> > >Just seen this from the BBC:
> > >
> > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4550593.stm
> > >
> > >Maybe of interest......
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >Mark
> > >Halifax UK
> > >
> > >To change subscription see www.landrover.net/series1/mail
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Tom Wykes.
> >
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> > If you don't live life on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
> >
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