Re: SER1 re-new chassis 1951 80
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The list seems to be doing funny things at the moment. Most of the
messages are coming through in duplicate, or have I done something
wrong. This is the text of a message that I sent earlier but which I
did not receive back, so if you have all had it twice(or even four times
I apologise).
In the UK you are allowed to replace the chassis with a new chassis and
that is that, VIN stays the same and there is no requirement to stamp
the chassis, (though
some people do) the bulkhead plate is the one that in theory has to be
present for the MOT test. There is a points system where if a vehicle
has had too many new
bits it is deemed to have ceased to be that vehicle. What you are not
meant to do is to use a chassis from another vehicle.
Tom C.
Diana Alan wrote:
> Bob My question comes from local knowledge that in NSW the Roads and
> Traffic Authority (MoT equivalent) will not recognise a change of
> chassis, as the chassis and VIN are the same. What they say is that
> it is a never previously registered, therefore a "new vehicle" and
> must comply with Australian Design Rules (ADR's) current on the day of
> registration. No grandfather clause etc. I know this because, years
> ago I had rot in the rear of a Series 2a SW chassis so I swapped
> everything over to a replacement chassis, including the GM 5.2 litre
> V8. The vehicle was presented to the RTA with the Registration Plates
> attached in current registration, same engine number etc. (The RTA
> maintain ownership of Rego Plates and they have to be returned within
> one month of the vehicle being written off or out of Registration.)
> The RTA said this was a new vehicle and didn't comply with ADR so the
> vehicle was eventually sold for parts value. Now on this list I keep
> hearing about people getting new replica chassis most of which are
> galvanised. My question is about those chassis, do they stamp the
> original chassis number on the replacement chassis? Diana
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Phillips
> To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx: Monday, November 22, 2004 6:45
> AMSubject: Re: SER1 re-new chassis 1951 80
> From what I believe to understand, The car number can only remain the
> same as the original. If anybody can enlighten on this, info would be
> most welcome. Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Diana Alan
> To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 11:17 AM
> Subject: SER1 re-new chassis 1951 80
> The VIN is the same as the chassis number. When you change
> to a new chassis onto an old set of body components what is
> the model of the vehicle? Do they re stamp the old
> number? Or do you get a new VIN? Diana
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Phillips
> Everything is going on to a new chassis and bulkhead, so we
> will need a few new bushes and bolts anyway.
>
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The list seems to be doing funny things at the moment. Most of the
messages are coming through in duplicate, or have I done something wrong.
This is the text of a message that I sent earlier but which I did not receive
back, so if you have all had it twice(or even four times I apologise).
<P>In the UK you are allowed to replace the chassis with a new chassis
and that is that, VIN stays the same and there is no requirement to stamp
the chassis, (though
<BR>some people do) the bulkhead plate is the one that in theory has to
be present for the MOT test. There is a points system where if a
vehicle has had too many new
<BR>bits it is deemed to have ceased to be that vehicle. What you
are not meant to do is to use a chassis from another vehicle.
<P>Tom C.
<P>Diana Alan wrote:
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<FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Bob</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>My
question comes from local knowledge that in NSW the Roads and Traffic Authority
(MoT equivalent) will not recognise a change of chassis, as the chassis
and VIN are the same. What they say is that it is a never previously
registered, therefore a "new vehicle" and must comply with Australian Design
Rules (ADR's) current on the day of registration. No grandfather
clause etc. I know this because, years ago I had rot in the rear
of a Series 2a SW chassis so I swapped everything over to a replacement
chassis, including the GM 5.2 litre V8. The vehicle was presented
to the RTA with the Registration Plates attached in current registration,
same engine number etc. (The RTA maintain ownership of Rego Plates and
they have to be returned within one month of the vehicle being written
off or out of Registration.) The RTA said this was a new vehicle
and didn't comply with ADR so the vehicle was eventually sold for parts
value.</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Now on this
list I keep hearing about people getting new replica chassis most of which
are galvanised.</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>My
question is about those chassis, do they stamp the original chassis number
on the replacement chassis?</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Diana</FONT></FONT>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A HREF="mailto:jagcat@xxxxxxx.xx.xx"; title="jagcat@xxxxxxx.xx.xx">Bob
Phillips</A></DIV>
<B>To:</B> <A HREF="mailto:series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx"; title="series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx">series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx</A><B>Sent:</B>
Monday, November 22, 2004 6:45 AM<B>Subject:</B> Re: SER1 re-new chassis
1951 80</DIV>
<FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>From what
I believe to understand,</FONT></FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>The
car number can only remain the same as the original.</FONT></FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>If
anybody can enlighten on this, info would be most welcome.</FONT></FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>Bob</FONT></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A HREF="mailto:dianaa@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx"; title="dianaa@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx">Diana
Alan</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A HREF="mailto:series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx"; title="series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx">series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 21, 2004 11:17
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> SER1 re-new chassis 1951
80</DIV>
<FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>The VIN is the same as the chassis
number.</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>When you change
to a new chassis onto an old set of body components what is the model of
the vehicle?</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Do they
re stamp the old number?</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Or
do you get a new VIN?</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Diana</FONT></FONT>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A HREF="mailto:jagcat@xxxxxxx.xx.xx"; title="jagcat@xxxxxxx.xx.xx">Bob
Phillips</A></DIV>
</DIV>
<FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>Everything is going
on to a new chassis and bulkhead, so we will need a few new bushes and
bolts anyway.</FONT></FONT></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
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