AW: SER1 Re: restoration or replica

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At least in the automotive industry the terms are well defined:

A reproduction is something produced using the original set of dies,
tooling, materials, whatever. It just originates from a later production
run.

A replica is something that looks identical but used different manufacturing
processes to be built. 

A reproduction is legally homologated, a replica not. None of the spare
parts we buy correspond to this legal definition. So, assuming we have an
accident due to something failing, it is in Europe imossible to claim
manufacturer's liability from Land Rover. To sue the supplier of the
component brings us quickly to the question of the qualification of the
labour that did the repair work. Wrong assembly is a commonly used tactic to
evade legal responsibility.

In the States that may be different....

Ulrico

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Betreff: Re: SER1 Re: restoration or replica

Interesting word "replica". My dictionary defines it
as an exact copy. Therefore it is used (in my opinion)
often incorrectly to desribe a "reproduction".

 Making an exact copy of a car fifty years old must
only be possible if you were using fifty year old
parts. A reproduction could look "exactly" the same
but wouldn't be, once the composition of the materials
was examined. This is of course how forgeries of the
great masterpieces are detected.

Anyway, tell me more Mark about the reproduction; it
sounds fantastic,
cheers Charlie
51 80"

--- Eighty Inch <eightyinch@xxx.xxx.xx> wrote:

> Hi Paul
> 
> I have a real problem with my computer today - I
> press reply and it sends without giving me time to
> write.
> 
> In regard to the Replica/Restoration debate - many
> places outside the U.K., particularly Australia, do
> not accept that a chassis can be replaced.  The
> identity of the vehicle is the number stamped into
> the vehicle (in the case of a Land Rover the
> chassis) not a number stamped into any sort of
> aluminium or brass plate affixed somewhere.  So we
> find the issue of replacement chassis' a fascinating
> activity. 
> 
> In the garage there is an axe - it belonged to my
> grandfather - over the years it has had 3 new
> handles and 1 new head.  Is it still my
> Grandfather's axe?
> 
> Diana 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Eighty Inch 
> To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx 
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 9:05 AM
> Subject: Re: SER1 Re: restoration or replica
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: paul longstaff 
> To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx 
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:44 AM
> Subject: SER1 Re: restoration or replica
> 
> 
> This is a bit of a hot potatoe in the UK magazines
> (after a write up on 860002)
> 
> I would have to go for a replica!!!  I wonder what
> chassis number/reg he used ???
> 
> Still a noble cause, the more vehicles on the road
> the better in my books!!
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> Eighty Inch <eightyinch@xxx.xxx.xx> wrote:
>   Mark
> 
>   If Keith Wadsworth built an entire car apart from
> its transmission. Is it a
>   restoration or a replica?
> 
>   Just wondering?
> 
>   I have some Wadsworth panels myself.
>   Diana
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: "Mark Strangways" 
>   To: 
>   Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 6:53 AM
>   Subject: RE: SER1 introduction
> 
> 
>   Hi Martin,
> 
>   ..and welcome to the list. I! ts funny you should
> mention Keith Wadsworth, (
>   www.wadsworthpanels.co.uk ) as I was only talking
> about Keith and his Series
>   One in a pub this afternoon! We were discussing
> the fact that he built the
>   whole thing himself, panels, chassis, bulkhead etc
> - apart from transmission
>   and engine of course. I take it you went to visit
> his workshop? I only live
>   a few miles away on the other side of the valley.
> Another 'famous' Land
>   Rover restorer you may have heard of - Ken
> Wheelright lives in this area as
>   well...its a pity its just me letting the side
> down with the quality of
>   restorations!
> 
>   Cheers
>   Mark
>   Halifax UK
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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