Re: SER1 Lucas Semaphore switch

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From: Diana Alan
Subject: Re: SER1 Lucas Semaphore switch
Date: 11:47 on 12 Nov 2004
Graham

Even better - So it's O.K to use it without the above, but only if I promise
not to use it after 1986,  Sounds fair enough to me.

Who has the Series 1 Garage time machine at the moment and can I borrow it
next time I wish to drive my Australian 1951 in the UK?

Thanks - All I wanted was a wiring diagramme to make (a now too modern)
semaphore switch work on an 80".  But now I have to back date the switch,
put flashing lights and a clicker inside the cab, not drill unofficial holes
in the dash, waving semaphore/trafficators on the outside and have a time
machine to boot.

What would happen if I asked for something difficult.

Thanks for everyone trying the assist.  I love hearing the differences in
Legislation and Regulations around the world.  Now onto another subject -
Please - PLEASE - !  Before I have to have a Policeman on points duty before
I can drive out my gate.

Diana

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "GRAHAM WOOD" <threemoles@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: SER1 Lucas Semaphore switch


From the UK MOT Testers manual:-

"Note: A 'tell-tale' may be audible or visual, it is not required if one or
more direction indicators on each side can be seen by the driver from the
driver's seat."

I guess that covers the trafficators, although it appears that this only
applies to vehicles only used on or after 1st April 1986 anyway.

The testers manual and a wealth of other useful information is at:
http://www.motuk.co.uk/

Graham W



> In fact you are both right - sorry!
>
>
>  From http://www.bobmckay.co.uk/dirhazlights.html
>
> "A tell-tale warning must be fitted and this can be an audible or
> visual device. If one or more direction indicators on each side can be
> seen from the drivers seat, a tell-tale is not needed.
>
>   Semaphore indicators must show an amber light to front and rear and
> must be fitted with an audible or visual tell tale. It may flash but is
> not required to do so."
>
>
>
> So Martin is correct you could rely on the flasher unit making a
> ticking noise, and as Tom says, the fact that you can see the
> trafficators lets you off too.
>
> Apologies for any confusion caused Diana.
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12 Nov 2004, at 10:50, Tom Wykes wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Surely a large flashing trafficator in the corner of you eye is visual
> > indication enough?? ;-)
> >
> >
> > At 10:41 12/11/2004, you wrote:
> >> The indicators are allowed to have either (or both) a visual or noise
> >> indication that they function correctly. The fact that you couldn't
> >> hear the
> >> noise in a Land Rover doesn't matter. The tester will hear the
> >> clicking or
> >> "tick tock"of the flasher unit as it's working inside the garage!
> >> cheers
> >> Martin
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Diana Alan" <dianaa@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
> >> To: <series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:11 AM
> >> Subject: Re: SER1 Lucas Semaphore switch
> >>
> >>
> >> > Jon
> >> >
> >> > Thanks - Now I'm in big trouble - I can't use the semaphore switch
> >> because
> >> > it's too modern and isn't original - now when I want to register it
> >> in the
> >> > U.K. the MoT will refuse it - Damn - Bugg.... (I can't use that word
> >> because
> >> > it's used in a Toyota HiLux commercial in Oz!)
> >> >
> >> > I guess my 80" will have to stay in Oz for the moment.
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Diana
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Jon Hutchings"
> >> <jon.hutchings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx.xx>
> >> > To: <series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> >> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:51 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: SER1 Lucas Semaphore switch
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The 80" model should have a switch that has no internal light. The
> >> > internal light is a feature of later switches. .....
> >> >
> >> > .... Though it should be noted that you are supposed to have a
> >> visual
> >> > indication of the indicators working for the MOT in the UK.
> >> > Jon
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > To change subscription see www.landrover.net/series1/mail
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> To change subscription see www.landrover.net/series1/mail
> >
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Tom Wykes.
> >
> >
> >
> > PCB Designer
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> > Fax.+44 (0)1223 703001
> > DDI. +44 (0)1223 703044
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> > www.cambridgebroadband.com
> >
> > If you don't live life on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
> >
> >
> > To change subscription see www.landrover.net/series1/mail
> >
> >
> >
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