RE: SER1 80 vs 86 truck cab

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Diana
And I take YOUR point.However Your trip sounds more fun,scenery wise.

Tom

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Tom

I take your point, but you are about 400 miles closer to Great Falls Montana
than I am to Darwin and 6680 Statute miles closer than I am to Montana.

And after all I have to climb up hill all the way to get to Montana.

Sydney - Darwin 1956 Statute Miles
Toronto - Great Falls 1563 Statute Miles
Sydney - Great Falls 8243 Statute Miles

Diana
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From: "Tom Tollefson" <tollefson@xxxxxxx.xx>
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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 2:46 AM
Subject: RE: SER1 80 vs 86 truck cab


From my place to Big Sky Rovers is about as close as Sidney is from Darwin.
Not exactly close.And Cred Evans would probably want an Arm & lef for them.

The big issue with early land Rovers and belts is that there is simply
nowhere to attach them.  I resort to driving ultra cautious ( imagine You
are invisible) and take mostly sideroads with minimal traffic.
Belts or not , one takes ones chances these days on the road,no matter what
You're driving.

Tom T

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Tom

Didn't I see a couple of 80" cab tops at that Big Sky Rover in Montana (yes
I know that's in the US, but that's close to Canada)

About the lap belts, they can actually be dangerous in themselves.  In a bad
crash the abdominal contents get pushed up into the chest, frequently
lacerating liver or spleen and risking rupture of the aorta.  If you have a
hardtop, I would try using the Series 2a/3 fittings and adapting them to the
series 1.  If you don't have a hard top I would suggest using a 4 point
harness (racing type over both shoulders) going back to the rear body
capping.  Use the holes for the grab handles.  I am the evening nurse
manager of an emergency department and have seen too many injuries to risk
travel without at least a 3 point harness.  Do you think an 80" would look
un-original with front and side airbags?

Diana
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From: "Tom Tollefson" <tollefson@xxxxxxx.xx>
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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 12:50 AM
Subject: RE: SER1 80 vs 86 truck cab


I n over 20 years of land Rovering in canada I havenever seen a 80" short
cab. They sure weren't imported here. Most candian LR's came with plain full
lenght hard top with side windows.

My wife is giving me a lot of grief with regards to seat belts ( or the lack
of) in the 80"
trouble is , she is right , I have to grudgingly admit. the problem is ,of
course, how to install belts without messing too much with originality and
also how to install without anything decent to bolt on to. The only
realistic and structurally sound way to get seartbeltsinto a 80" is a
rollcage and I am not going there.
 I guess lapbelts will have to do with their limited usefulness.

Shortening a 86 cab is a relatively easy task and probably a decent
alternative .
I believe George Sollish will be attempting to fit a 86 hardtop onto his
Minerva soon.

Tom T

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Sent: November 19, 2004 12:27 AM
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Subject: Re: SER1 80 vs 86 truck cab


Ulrico

I have wondered the same thing.

There are lots of later Series 1 cabs about but very few original 80" cabs.
They were mostly export only, so the place to go is the US and ship one
back.  We may find a Canadian colleague who will look out for one and we can
send over the cash.

The other option as you suggested shortening a 107" to fit the 80" would be
possible but may also be sacrilege.  Tom's comment about the gal "capping"
(or should that be footing) is correct so the experts will know the truth.

When my vehicle restoration is finished I may well attempt the modification
but not at this point.

One other aspect, in terms of safety, the lack of seatbelts and head
restraints in Series 1's, always worries me.  I don't like the idea of
driving with a stiff neck collar on to prevent spinal injuries but a cab
top, is in about the correct place for a head restraint and your skull
harder than the aluminium.

Diana

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From: "Ulrico Becker" <ulrico.becker@xxxxxx.xx>
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Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 4:32 AM
Subject: AW: SER1 80 vs 86 truck cab


So, I have an 86 or 88 truck cab then! It stands back into the tub and
obstructs the recess in the tub's floor for the spare wheel.

Do you think it would be possible to frabricate an 80" model out of a larger
truck cab?

Ulrico

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Jon and Ulrico

The 80" truck cab has about 7cm less behind the drivers/passengers seats.
If you look at the curved part of the roof line of the 86"/107" truck cab
there is a ridge about 10cm from the back, the 80" finishes just about that
point.

My 1951 came with the roof section of a 86"/107" truck cab and I would also
like an 80" truck cab. So if you have an 80" truck cab you don't want in Oz,
I'm your gal.

I think they look cute.  No room for the driver/passenger and barely enough
room in the back for a hay bail or a bag of oats.

Diana

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ulrico Becker" <ulrico.becker@xxxxxx.xx> I am interested in the
answer too. My 80" came with a truck cab which originates from a later
vehicle as can be seen on the pics I sent round.

If there is somebody willing to swap it against an original one <i would be
more than happy to do so.

Ulrico

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:29:58 +0000
 Jon Hutchings <jon.hutchings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
> HI All
>
> Are the 86 and 80 truck cabs interchangeable ?
> How can I tell the difference between the truck cab for a 80" and that
> for and 86"
>
> Is there a way I can tell armed only with a tape measure for example,
>
> Thanks
>
> Jon
>
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