Re: LR3 was SER1 where have we gone in 60 years?

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Allan,

you raise some interesting points....if you have ever read Len Beadells
books
on what he did in the 50's and 60's here in Australia with Ser 1 Land Rovers
and
what those road construction/ survey parties put them through in engineering
terms
is quite amazing.....the Land Rover always got them home.....simple,
reliable and
most of all repairable.....they had to be....in design and engineering terms
where have we
come in 60 years?....

I have been giving some thought to upgrading our Discovery 1 and having had
a look at options, read reports, talked to people etc I basically decided
for
a variety of reasons it would in fact at this point in time be a backward
step!....
why? well my disco 1 gives excellent fuel economy, on average 8 lts per 100
km's,
is easy to maintain, no electronics on the engine to actually make it
run....its
big enough for most things and most important of all my partner drives it
and
likes it allot....there is nothing I cannot repair in my garage at home...so
for
me its a win win situation...if I went for the 300 tdi and beyond there is
the
issue of electronics to be dealt with. The electronics systems used today
are
incredibly reliable no doubt about it....but as we all know when you least
need a problem
something will go wrong....as I see it the big problem with adding
electronics to
a compression ignition engine is if and when there is a failure it is often
catastrophic
leaving the engine inoperable!....

I read a report on a TD 5 from some dude in the Northern Territory who had
a partial operating system shut down in some remote location, the engine
would only allow
I think 1000 or slightly less engine rpm....he had to drive it at 15 km per
hour some
ridiculous distance.....the eventual problem? a bad earth terminal somewhere
if I recall
correctly.....great!.....some Mexican factory worker had a big night out and
didn't
crimp a lug properly next day at work and he potentially puts you and your
families life
at risk....

I could bang on for hours about what LR are doing in terms of going
backwards but what's
the point....we all know that vehicles don't need 27 microprocessors to
operate and
any more than none is too much....

So brother and sister ludites keep the dream alive and keep ser 1 on the
road.....

Bruce




>     I just read the blurb on the Toyota (can we use that word on this
> list?) Pure, simple and functional? Add as ugly as a hat full of
> a********s. How can plastic and microprocessors be pure simple and
> functional? Same goes for the Discovery 3, 27 microprocessors. Might be
> OK if you live in the UK or Europe where it is only ever a 30 minute
> walk to help when you are out using the vehicle for what it is
> supposedly made for and one of the microprocessors has just drowned or
> cooked.. The MR Mercedes does not even have a spare, just a can of
> Finileak. Really useful when you have just cut the sidewall out of a
> tyre on a mulga root and its 500 Km. to anywhere.
>     Pure simple and functioanal is long lost. I will be sticking to my
> Discovery Series I for as long as is humanly possible. It is still
> repairable and can be serviced without a shed full of diagnostic
> computers and a Phd. in astrophysics.
>     Cheers, long may both types of Series I Land Rovers soldier on,
>     Allan
>     Canberra, Australia
>
>
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