Re: LR3 was SER1 where have we gone in 60 years?

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Tom

I didn't know about that VW study.

I must apologise, I put us all wrong.  The first premise of good
environmental policy is Reduce, then comes Reuse, then Recycle.

From the VW study we are doing both of the first two.

It is a sad reflection on society, recently (4 years ago) I tried to get an
evaporator unit for a 1994 Toyota alpha sports car and the answer from
Toyota, nil stock no longer produced.  I couldn't believe it a 6 year old
car and they have no responsibility to maintain parts for it and we get
frustrated when we can't find an original NOS part for a 60 year old
vehicle.  It's must be that much more frustrating for the G Wagen owner?

Cheers
Diana
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Tollefson" <tollefson@xxxxxxx.xx>
To: <series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:21 AM
Subject: RE: LR3 was SER1 where have we gone in 60 years?


Hello Diana, Bruce , Allen and the rest of the list.
I think I have mentioned this before , there was a study done by Volkswagen
probably 20 years ago about car recycling.
they gave a figure of 22 metric tons of non recyclable waste product for
every single car produced that would yield maybe a 1/2 ton of recyclable
materials after it's useful life of about 10 years. the 22 ton figure
included everything from the assembly workers lunch wrappings to the
tailings left behind at the iron ore mine to the slag heap at the steel
plant et c et c You get the point.
Unfortunately even with the vast resource of the internet I have been unable
to locate a copy of this report but I like to quote it when accused of
driving a gas guzzling polluting stink box that should go to the dump by
some of the more ignorant members of the motoring world. I figure that by
driving a 53 year old car I have helped to reduce the accumulation of 110
tons of solid waste. And that should count for something, no?

I just came back from a week long road trip to the James Bay area of
northern Quebec (Pictures soon on SOG) We covered well over 4000 km in  "sub
arctic" conditions and had our share of automotive troubles, namely a
generator bearing getting rather noisy a 1000 km into the trip and the
clutch starting to slip under heavy load (the night before departure) and
one of the almost new spark plugs dying in the middle of a severe snow storm
10 km before home on the return.  We fixed item 1 and 3 on the side of the
road and I'll deal with the clutch later, it still works ,just needs a
gentle touch on the accelerator pedal. the point is , we made it all the way
there and all the way back . At the furthest point of our trip, right on the
shores of James Bay we met a Fellow from Germany on route across the
continent in a $100.000 Mercedes G wagen , 3 years old.
It suffered from sluggish performance (3 liter turbo diesel) and after some
tinkering we decided he had to come with us back to Toronto (1700Km away) to
visit the Benz dealer to confirm our field diagnosis of a buggered turbo
charger and to but the necessary replacement parts.
Once back in town we spent a full 12 hours (over 2 days) to get some help
from the dealer who claimed they " don't do G wagens any more" and sent us
to freightliner (negative) and then to the Chrysler dealer(negative again)
We practically complained our way up the command chain until they definitely
confirmed they could do nothing for us except maybe order a new Turbo
charger ($3100.-) from Germany, it would take a week.
We left in disgust and ordered the parts ourselves in Germany ($ 1600.-) and
we'll fix the car at my shop this week.

What am I trying to say here, I think You get the point . Once the big car
corporations started replacing customer service with "responsibilities to
their shareholders " and  the marketing hocus pocus that is when the product
goes down the hill and the end user needs to learn to become self
sufficient.
I think I am better off than the G wagon owner.
 I got so thoroughly disgusted with Benz while sitting in their self
glorifying glass and steel palace trying to get some help and ending up with
a lot of BS ,its not funny any more
I have a 1963 Mercedes Unimog with a nice chromed star on the front. The
truck is for sale it's going cheap...

Tom T 1952 80"

-----Original Message-----
From: series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx [mailto:series1-host@xxxxxxxxx.xxx]On
Behalf Of Diana Alan
Sent: April 10, 2005 8:42 PM
To: series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: LR3 was SER1 where have we gone in 60 years?


G'Day Bruce and Allan

I agree with Allan. Isn't the first premise of environmental policy REUSE -
that's what we're doing.

Diana



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