Re: LR3 was SER1 where have we gone in 60 years?

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If it's any consolation councils are the same or even worse in the UK. The
whole fabric of our society seems to have gone down the pan. We are buried
with tick box petty politically correct officials and police who will book
you for eating an apple whilst stuck in a traffic queue.  ...It all started
long before Robertsons were forced to take Gollywogs off their marmalade
jars.
We are lucky to be able to still run old motors in the UK but's a freedom
that is eroded constantly...there will soon be a "possesion tax" whether you
use it or not, even parked on your own land out of use completely.
Regards
Martin
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Diana Alan" <dianaa@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: <series1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: LR3 was SER1 where have we gone in 60 years?


> G'Day Allan Tom and others
>
> No your not alone.  Have you been following the contraversy with North
> Sydney Council who wants to double the cost of Resident Parking Permits
for
> people who drive large four wheel drives with an intention to reduce the
> standard rate for owners of small "environmentally friendly" vehicles.
What
> an administrative nightmare.  What constitutes a large four wheel drive,
my
> 80", a Suzuki Sierra, or just the LR Defenders, Toyota Landcruisers and
Jeep
> Grand Cherokee.  Where does the Subaru Forrester fit in, on that matter
what
> about the Subaru WRX, Jensen Interceptor or Audi Quatro their all four
wheel
> drive.  Then theres the equivalent sized vehicles, the variety of white
vans
> from everyone, Nissan, Mitsubishi. Toyota, Ford, Mercedes, VW etc and all
> the people movers Chrysler Voyager, Toyota Tarago which what about the
> 1950's Ford Customline its as big as a Landcruiser wagon and more of a gas
> guzzler.
>
> Who makes these ideas up that 4X4's are so dangerous.  I recently heard a
> presentation on driveway rollovers of children and 4X4's were over
> represented in the sample. I seem to recall that about 25% were caused by
> 4X4's when they only make up about 5 - 10% of total registrations.  The
> Hospital that did the study was Westmead Children's Hospital in western
> Sydney, the following day I was in the next suburb to Westmead (picking up
> 80" parts) and was stopped at traffic lights.  I did a count of the cars
> around me, of the 13 vehicles at the lights more than 50% of the vehicles
> around me were 4X4.  Some the family car, others the plumber's work truck
> etc.  As someone said there are lies, damn lies and statistics.
>
> Before I leave the subject, Yes there are some issues where the geometry
of
> a 4X4 and the physics of a car V' pedestrian crash where 4X4's are
> dangerous.  The height of the bumper changes the first point of contact on
> the pedstrian higher up so there is a greater tendency for the pedestrian
to
> be thrown to the ground and run over where adults are usually thrown onto
> the bonnet and run under.  (Children are most frequently run over or
> thrown.)  However this is the same for any vehicle with a high bumper,
like
> the forward control white vans.  The other issue is the high centre of
> gravity and weight reducing stopping efficiency however this can be
> countered by the greater visibility leading to less crashes in the first
> place.  Although I haven't seen comparitive statistics for crashes per
> vehicle miles travelled between cars and 4X4's, maybe no one has done them
> because their not politically correct findings.
>
> Regards
> Diana
>
>
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